Shay Banon

So I think that sometimes we make the mistake of judging open source based on, you know, it's like we always like the songs when we were teenagers and they're stuck with us and it's like, it will never be better. So it's like some of us, remember open source licenses and usage like it was in 2004 and five or three and seven.

So I think that sometimes we make the mistake of judging open source based on, you know, it's like we always like the songs when we were teenagers and they're stuck with us and it's like, it will never be better. So it's like some of us, remember open source licenses and usage like it was in 2004 and five or three and seven.

And it's like, how many hours did I spend around the differences between GPL and Apache? That was within open source, by the way. And it's like, oh, you can't choose one versus another. I think developers today, they pick an open source license and they're fine. They're fine. You know what I mean? It's like they care much less about the fidelity of difference between Apache, for example, and GPL.

And it's like, how many hours did I spend around the differences between GPL and Apache? That was within open source, by the way. And it's like, oh, you can't choose one versus another. I think developers today, they pick an open source license and they're fine. They're fine. You know what I mean? It's like they care much less about the fidelity of difference between Apache, for example, and GPL.

I actually also think that big companies care much less about, like enterprises. We used to think like, we used to say Apache is much easier for enterprises to adopt, but But look at MongoDB. It's all over the place in large enterprises and it's AGPL. So it's like, obviously that's not hurting adoption or was AGPL. So it's not hurting a job adoption.

I actually also think that big companies care much less about, like enterprises. We used to think like, we used to say Apache is much easier for enterprises to adopt, but But look at MongoDB. It's all over the place in large enterprises and it's AGPL. So it's like, obviously that's not hurting adoption or was AGPL. So it's not hurting a job adoption.

And I think a similar thing might happen in AI and that might be the missed opportunity. We see open models, we see open this, we're saying open source AI, open source models when they're not strictly matched the definition of open source.

And I think a similar thing might happen in AI and that might be the missed opportunity. We see open models, we see open this, we're saying open source AI, open source models when they're not strictly matched the definition of open source.

I don't know about, it doesn't matter about OSI or not. I just don't want the term open source to get diluted.

I don't know about, it doesn't matter about OSI or not. I just don't want the term open source to get diluted.

And I think that's the responsibility of OSI and us, by the way, to help, to try to figure out, because we obviously play a big role in Gen AI as well and building models and things like that, to figure out how do we build a system that allows for it? Because you just don't want it to be diluted to become a term that means everything.

And I think that's the responsibility of OSI and us, by the way, to help, to try to figure out, because we obviously play a big role in Gen AI as well and building models and things like that, to figure out how do we build a system that allows for it? Because you just don't want it to be diluted to become a term that means everything.

It's open source.

It's open source.

It's like a princess bride. It's only slightly dead. Yeah, exactly.

It's like a princess bride. It's only slightly dead. Yeah, exactly.

Pretty much, yeah.

Pretty much, yeah.

I think there's a lot of urgency in being able to properly define it. So we as a society own the terms open source and it defines what we do. I will say this is not like an us versus OSI. That's not at least how I think about it. I think OSI is doing a lot of amazing work and it's our responsibility to help OSI to figure this out. Whether it's monetarily...

I think there's a lot of urgency in being able to properly define it. So we as a society own the terms open source and it defines what we do. I will say this is not like an us versus OSI. That's not at least how I think about it. I think OSI is doing a lot of amazing work and it's our responsibility to help OSI to figure this out. Whether it's monetarily...