Shaykh Uthman

You know, I mean, that's how deep.

I mean, I still have people that I grew up with that are doing five life sentences one after the other.

Jeez.

Because they shot five people tied up in a house.

So they will never get out of life, right?

Out of jail.

They're life without parole, basically.

and they're still in the gang and they're still involved in running and then there's what's called a shoe i don't know if you know what a shoe is heard shu secured housing unit okay so his he used to write to me from it is was six foot by ten foot so and he's a tall guy so he if he put his arms out he could touch the sides of the walls yeah you know the cell on this way and 23 hours a day he's in there oh my god 23 hours no social contact no no wi-fi for the young guys that

No game console.

This is a Norway.

They don't give you an Xbox.

23 hours.

One hour a day.

He can only walk around in a little circle in a little cage that's next to it, but he can't talk to anybody.

Wow.

And he's still in the gang.

And he still calls shots.

What?

And he still calls hits from inside the shoe.

How?