Sheevaun Moran

Yeah, we've been doing events for a long time.

So we have it pretty well nailed down and we know what we want to handle.

But AV kicks our butt every single time.

25 grand.

Right?

Um, you know, we walk away with a product that is extraordinary.

I've tried a lot of folks and I haven't walked away with products that are extraordinary.

We don't, we actually use it for different pieces of our training and we actually put it into, we actually give a lot of it away for free.

I'm a huge believer in, you must give, you must, I have so much, so much to teach and share people.

So with people, so if I can give a whole bunch of stuff, so we cut it up and share it with other folks.

Yeah, it's not like most people.

I've been doing this over 15 years.

And so people will come from even we had somebody in the room who's been with me on my list for 12 years.

She just came into my room for the first time this past time.

So people follow me and watch, I guess, for some time.

So it's list.

It's I have a YouTube channel.

and um i actually have people who come for my podcast which is five years ago and i still don't i don't do anything with it um how many downloads total did the podcast get no how long did it run i'm curious speaking we did 150 episodes and you know at the time they didn't have metrics you know it was really just throw it throw it up there so we actually don't know what year was this

Oh, gosh.

So five years ago.