Sheila Dillon

Too detailed?

I think that is one of the most shocking indictments of the present system.

Such a plan will need monitoring.

How?

Well, so far, it will rely on a school governor being appointed secretary

to ensure staff have the right training, equipment, and that the menus are following the standards.

And there's not much money to help the process along.

3p per meal is being added to what schools are paid for supplying free school meals, though from September, more children will be eligible for those free meals.

I asked Anna what's missing from the standards.

For example, there's no mention of ultra-processed foods, UPFs,

the foods that now make up a high proportion of what UK children and teenagers regularly eat, and which now, good evidence shows, are strongly linked to many serious health problems.

What does it say about, you know, the quality of the food being served?

Because, you know, there's good quality cooking and there's, you know, let's just shove more beans and vegetables at the kids.

Are these standards going to address that?

Anna Taylor, head of the Food Foundation...

We asked the Department for Education in England why buying food locally isn't part of the standards.

It told us it continues to, quote, work closely with DEFRA to support our pledge.

We will also assess how we can support schools to purchase nutritious local produce within their current financial parameters.

In Penritham, the food hatches are open and the queues are building.

Jenya, one of the year 10s I talked to earlier, took me to the front of the canteen queue.