Shekhar Natarajan

But you are one of the forces of the reality.

And so you talked about courage.

Yeah.

How did you relate courage to what you do?

um yeah the the maybe you think courage is to have no fear i think courage is to do the thing you have to do even you are scared so this was the point no it's about the fear and about to be ready to be scared and to be ready to be gentle with ourselves when we are fragile when we have fear it's not about uh

I would say it's not about think you have to be great, you have not to be fear.

You can be scared and you have to be gentle with you, like a scared baby.

When my daughter fall the first time from her bicycle, first time she make some just a small wound with some blood.

You don't spend time talking about big existential problem.

You just hug her.

Same with us.

When you are wounded, when you feel fear, try to be gentle with yourself.

So courage is not about denying your fragility.

It's about embrace them and to be gentle.

Beautiful.

And so courage is that.

Then what was your next talk about?

Lying.

The one where I make a line, my topic was you can write a line.

What is it, a bridge or a border?