Sheldon Johnson

Okay, Mr. Dubin, good to see you again, sir.

Mr. Rogan.

Sheldon, how long have you been out for?

And you were in for 25?

Jesus.

You know, one of the things that's happened through all of our conversations that we've had on the show

is it highlights how insanely broken the criminal justice system is and how little oversight there is and how few people are looking at these individual cases and that you can have one judge who does what they did to you.

And no one's looking.

No one cares.

No one pays attention.

And until someone like you goes in and starts combing over this and then...

coming up with a strategy for, you know, to actually apply real justice or at least get someone out.

I mean, the only way to apply real justice is to have a fucking time machine, right?

But it's broken.

I mean, it's so broken and it seems so overwhelmed and the root cause of it is never addressed.

The root cause of, I mean, I've said it ad nauseum, but I'll say it again.

Where the fuck did we come up with a hundred and whatever billion dollars to send to Ukraine?

And we don't have any money to try to do something about these insanely impoverished, crime-ridden, gang-ridden, drug-ridden communities.

We don't do anything?

We have nothing?