Sheldon Johnson

80% of them struggle to read.

I want to get to what were the circumstances that got your sentence reduced and how did that come about?

Right.

I think what you're talking about, too, is expressed by I know a lot of guys that have been that have had dealings with black cops, black guys having dealings with black cops.

And they will tell you, man.

they will go out of their way, oftentimes, to show that they're not showing any favoritism.

They have to show, because they're a minority in their precinct, and they go out of their way to show that they fit in with that culture.

Right.

Yeah.

God, it's such a fucked up system.

It's crazy.

It's so fucked up.

And every time we have one of these conversations, I leave and I just drive and I think when I'm driving home, just like, what the fuck?

Like, just the sea of human beings that are entrapped in this system.

What is the number of incarcerated individuals in the United States right now?

Two million.

Two million.

So that's more than the population of Austin.

It's actually 1.92.

We rounded off as 2 million.