Shelley Rigger

Correct.

And if you really wanted to prepare an American community to take over one of these ecosystems or to create an ecosystem that could mirror what happens in Taiwan, you would need to start with pre-K, right?

Because the society is being educated from pre-K.

early childhood to be able to fit into that industrial structure.

Recently, I was in Taiwan and we were on a bus going between two places and I saw a huge industrial park under construction.

So it's a huge building.

And I thought, I bet you that's a TSMC fab, but I couldn't see the sign on it.

Later, one of the other people on the bus said, yeah, that was a TSMC fab under construction.

But what I could see was the sign on the building under construction right next to it.

And what it is, is a technical high school.

Because high school and industry are...

joined at the hip.

The kids who go to that technical high school, so it's like a vocational school, they will finish high school basically with the training of a BS degree engineer at a lot of American universities.

And they will walk straight into TSMC and go to work.

And they will have been trained and educated not only to do what TSMC needs them to do today, but to be able to grow with the company over time.

So they may be technicians, but they are really smart and they are really good at way more than just, you know, like soldering two things together.

Right.

And they learned a lot of math in elementary school.

That's how they can be in a position to move through this technical high school.

So, yeah.