Shelly Jackson

And then after that, we are supporting them with training, making sure they have the skills needed to run, making sure that we're also talking through with them.

How are you thinking about your finances?

If you're running for school board, you don't get paid.

If you're running for the state legislator, I believe the most they make is about $27,000.

And that's a really hard job, right?

So we have the conversations and we provide the resources for people to make informed decisions.

And then once they get into office, we also have a co-governance fellowship.

And this really helps support the now elected thinking through what does it look like to govern?

What does it look like to do this job well?

And what does it look like to do it with community to make sure that we're also not moving on our own and being harmful once we get into office?

I love this question.

Also cringing at the fact that they started in Arizona.

Don't love that.

But you know what?

One thing I think that they are doing that we can think about more on our side is creating low barriers of entry.

I think a lot of the times on our side, we start to do purity tests.

We start to create these really high bars just for people to get involved.

And sometimes we just end up pushing people away instead of inviting them in.

And I do think at Turning Point, they are on campuses.

They are all over and they're welcoming any and everyone.