Sherryn Groch

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The idea is really to create a place where they can survive these bans, they can survive public scrutiny, prosecution.

I guess experts are saying to me, now that they've actually got the compound they've been wanting to get for years, they worry this means they've entered a dangerous new phase where they'll feel more emboldened and they'll really start hunkering down.

And as one US expert said to me, Matt Kreiner, when Nazis hunker down in compounds, it's a big red flag.

Yeah, so Saul, a lot of his rich mates, they've got both money and influence.

So there was Marty Featherstone, obviously, but there was also a guy called David Roberts.

He's the son of a wealthy family in aviation and gun dealing in regional Victoria.

There's also a guy called Mitch Hobbs.

He's a young stockbroker and far-right influencer.

He goes by the name Sir Doug Online, and he's a close friend.

He's a collaborator of Hugo Lennon, the property development heir and influencer.

And he confirmed that he and Hugo Lennon have been travelling around the US meeting with MAGA influencers.

And also this neo-Nazi looks-maxer guy.

And Lennon's been spruiking Saul to some pretty deep-pocketed conservatives over there saying he's a household name, he's a big deal in Australian politics, kind of building that momentum around him.

There's also a guy, he's a wealthy friend of Andrew Tate.

He's the man-fluencer and former porn star Sterling Cooper.

I sort of figured out he was helping Sue artificially inflate his reach online using the kind of propaganda clips and tactics that Tate had used to artificially inflate his own reach online.

So they've sort of learned from their mates in the UK and Germany about

who were banned by governments there.

And what they're trying to do is create a political party, they call it White Australia, as a way to shield themselves from the law by claiming, look, everything we do is political expression.