Shirin Ebadi

Right.

So for that, like, you know, like, if I, if I, if I step back and think about like, like what makes Iran, Iran, you know, it is like the women of courage, like, you know, who can come out and like protest, right.

Like Tahira, like in 1840, right.

Who actually was the person who actually like, you know, call for emancipation of women or it is like people like yourself.

So for all those people, like,

I feel very sad.

These are the rules that they have to live by.

So how do you feel about that, Reema?

You've been the recipient of that.

And you also brought up the question of Rizal Pahlavi.

His daughter...

was also exiled and she died.

She died in LA in unknown circumstances.

So there is so much pain and grief but the country is so rich in culture, poetry, the essence of the culture itself, what they stand for, so diverse.

And yet, like, you know, like, a handful of people can come and screw it all up for us.

It makes me, like, wonder, like, where we are in a society.

You know, like, are we living in, like, 1900s, 1600s or 1500s or what?

I don't even know how to, like, you know, even think about all these things.

Because my friends, like, you know, like, I know my friend, like, you know, his name is Zubin Wakil.

Zoroastrian, Farsi guy.