Shiv Malik

That goes horribly wrong, inevitably.

White elephants, as they call them.

Yeah.

Or even if they do go right, it's a sense that exactly as it kind of said, you know, it's imbued with someone's ego, etc., etc.,

You know, we've had, in recent memory, we've had HS2, right?

You know, huge overruns.

What the hell are we doing?

Can't even seem to build a railway.

But not long before that, we had the Olympics, right?

Completed on time, somewhat on budget.

It was, I think, twice the budget as expected, but certainly a huge success on the world stage.

I think it surprised us as a people that,

Yeah, people completely forget that it used to be Europe's largest kind of fridge mountain, right?

That's what we built the Olympics out of, a huge garbage dump in many respects, right?

And I live there.

And I remember thinking to myself, God, this place is, it's so amazing.

I had a four-year-old and, you know, you'll know this from having children.

You get huge amounts of anxiety because they like to run around.

And of course, they run into the road.

You don't know where they're going to be, end up, and you're forever kind of anxious.