Shiv Malik

Yeah, they do.

I mean, they would love Britain.

I'll put it this way, to be really precise.

They would, of course, love Britain to be doing ambitious things because they already have their money invested here.

They already have businesses that make them hundreds of millions.

Of course, they want Britain to be on the front foot of the on the global stage and not a kind of sort of semi embarrassment in that.

So, of course, they would want to see Britain build a city.

I mean, everyone knows that they had a target, which was 1.5 million homes by the end of this parliament.

They're not going to make it.

They know that.

Everyone knows that.

And 1.5 million homes is simply not enough.

Well, look, the New Towns programme is a flagship of theirs, and that will deliver something like 200,000 at most homes.

It's not enough in your view.

It's not enough.

I mean, everyone knows it's not enough.

That's not just my view.

The question is, what more can you do and how can you do it better?

So it's not just about homes.

The New Towns programme, again, is very simple.