Shiv Malik

So we're working with an architecture firm, a robotics firm.

People will be able to see and visit and touch and feel this thing not very long from now.

It might take sort of six months more, but that will be emblematic, I think, of how we want Forest City to look and the aesthetics.

I think there's, look, there's a lot to avoid in terms of aesthetics.

There's a lot to avoid in terms of economics.

They did not work economically.

Exactly.

And you talk to major employers there, including, you know... Arm.

Exactly.

In fact, talking to the SVP of Arm...

you know, one of the major things that they've opened up in Manchester because Cambridge is ultimately, it's really hard to expand, for example, and it's also really difficult for their own employees to afford homes.

That's true of all companies that employ people in Cambridge, right?

And so what do they do, right?

Do they just say, well, we'll try and pay you a lot more or give up or move somewhere else, right?

And ultimately that's, you know, those are the choices that companies kind of make and much of the deficit of kind of Cambridge because it can't solve those issues.

But look, the radicalism that I like is the stuff that goes back to kind of political economy, right?

Cities that own themselves.

Neo, if you want, municipalism.

What do you do to take back those basics of energy, transport and water and housing, right?

How does a city own itself so it's the landlord rather than, you know...