Sho Ali

To your point, what you do see is just what happens on the field as in Ernie Clement being asked to bunt or a guy not being pinch hit for or pointing out to the bullpen and calling for the right or wrong guy, for example.

That's all you get to really see, which I think

It reminds me of something that Mattingly had said, Don Mattingly, when the Phillies were here in town just a couple days ago, and Mattingly went on with Blair and Barker on their show.

I highly recommend giving it a listen.

He actually gave them a pretty decent chunk of time, which is pretty cool from a guy like Don Mattingly.

But I think it was, I forget which one of B&B asked him this question, but the question was something along the lines of, I'm paraphrasing, but it was something along the lines of, I think it was Blair who asked this, what can you take

from a previous spot in your career into now being the interim, of course, manager of the Philadelphia Phillies.

And one of the things he said about what he had observed from John Schneider, and he even said that he feels he himself is more conservative, which, you know, I'm not particularly shocked.

An older guy, right, who has been around the game a really long time.

But he had said that, you know, John Schneider is more of a gambler.

And I mean, he tries to do some of those things

in his own managing because he is himself conservative in how he does things.

So, for example, I think that bears out in what you've said.

Again, I'm not watching tons of Phillies baseball post-Rob Thompson, right?

Not that I was watching tons of Phillies baseball pre-Don Mattingly.

Once he was fired, you were out forever.

that probably didn't need to qualify but uh i i do think it is funny to hear that because i don't think it was it wasn't a criticism of don mattingly and saying that john shan was a gambler but he like went out of his way to mention the fact that you know analytics is a big part of this right now again i'm not trying to like draw some kind of line to the stand by saying analytics is bad not using analytics is good right i mean it's that's it's a very complicated answer that we've constantly discussed in the

And the over-cacification, as Blair likes to say, of baseball.

But I don't know.

I do feel like there is probably a happier medium for when Schneider, for example, specifically does things like asking guys to bunts or certain bullpen usages.