Sho Ali

I don't know.

I go back and forth on it.

I'm not sure I would be so harsh on John Schneider.

I would also say I'm not sure he was the primary reason they're going to the World Series just because that's how managers are these days, right?

Maybe that wasn't the case yesterday.

10 to 15 years ago, but I do think in modern baseball, that's not necessarily... It's not only on the manager, let's put it that way.

Even though in this particular game, it did not like the decisions.

Hashtag never bunt.

Yeah, it's a good point about the split in terms of what you see and what you don't because I do think as well, and I've said this before in years past, but if you compare the job of a manager to the job of basically any other head coach in North American sports, right?

You compare them to the job of a head coach in the NFL or in the NHL, someone standing behind the bench, or in basketball, someone standing with a clipboard in their hands, right?

And in the NFL, maybe it's even worse in the sense that –

today's nfl many of many of the head coaches are also calling plays right so they're all they're like they're very involved and the reason i bring this up is because like what do you what do you the viewer and us the media what are you seeing when you look at these coaches you're seeing them do something right you're seeing them do things right when you're in the nhl it's you know guys call a timeout and everyone huddles around the bench and the coaches is is is is you know

demonstrably pointing and saying and drawing on a whiteboard.

And same goes in the NBA.

And the coach is down on one knee, and everyone's huddled around them.

And then they drop a play, and someone tips in the bucket at the last second of an NBA finals game.

You see that tangibly with your own eyes.

And then, yeah, the NFL guys are actively calling plays or pulling down the mask of their quarterback to get in their ear and tell them something about the coverage on the field or whatever, right?

You just don't really see that in baseball.

I would say for even the quote-unquote best manager, you just don't see that.