Shumita Basu

Well, so the Trump administration has been claiming that there's nothing that they can do to bring back the man who was wrongfully deported, as they have acknowledged, mistakenly deported, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who ended up in this prison in El Salvador and is still there. The administration says now they cannot do anything to bring him back.

Well, so the Trump administration has been claiming that there's nothing that they can do to bring back the man who was wrongfully deported, as they have acknowledged, mistakenly deported, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who ended up in this prison in El Salvador and is still there. The administration says now they cannot do anything to bring him back.

When the Supreme Court weighed in on this earlier this week, even they said that the government's argument that the U.S. courts cannot do anything once a deportee has crossed the border is, quote, plainly wrong. And now Trump is talking about expanding this relationship, as you said, sending U.S. citizens to be incarcerated in El Salvador.

When the Supreme Court weighed in on this earlier this week, even they said that the government's argument that the U.S. courts cannot do anything once a deportee has crossed the border is, quote, plainly wrong. And now Trump is talking about expanding this relationship, as you said, sending U.S. citizens to be incarcerated in El Salvador.

When the Supreme Court weighed in on this earlier this week, even they said that the government's argument that the U.S. courts cannot do anything once a deportee has crossed the border is, quote, plainly wrong. And now Trump is talking about expanding this relationship, as you said, sending U.S. citizens to be incarcerated in El Salvador.

If that were to happen, which just to be clear, is illegal, what he is talking about, what are the possible options for recourse in the U.S. courts, maybe even in international courts?

If that were to happen, which just to be clear, is illegal, what he is talking about, what are the possible options for recourse in the U.S. courts, maybe even in international courts?

If that were to happen, which just to be clear, is illegal, what he is talking about, what are the possible options for recourse in the U.S. courts, maybe even in international courts?

Mm hmm. You know, I was struck when I was rereading your time piece, which, again, you wrote last summer before Trump had been reelected. You wrote, for Bukele's admirers, El Salvador has become a showcase for how populist authoritarianism can succeed.

Mm hmm. You know, I was struck when I was rereading your time piece, which, again, you wrote last summer before Trump had been reelected. You wrote, for Bukele's admirers, El Salvador has become a showcase for how populist authoritarianism can succeed.

Mm hmm. You know, I was struck when I was rereading your time piece, which, again, you wrote last summer before Trump had been reelected. You wrote, for Bukele's admirers, El Salvador has become a showcase for how populist authoritarianism can succeed.

And his second term will be a test of what happens to a state when its charismatic young leader has an overwhelming mandate to dismantle its democratic institutions in pursuit of security. Again, you wrote this before Trump was back in office for his second term. What do you think are the risks for other countries for the world if the U.S.

And his second term will be a test of what happens to a state when its charismatic young leader has an overwhelming mandate to dismantle its democratic institutions in pursuit of security. Again, you wrote this before Trump was back in office for his second term. What do you think are the risks for other countries for the world if the U.S.

And his second term will be a test of what happens to a state when its charismatic young leader has an overwhelming mandate to dismantle its democratic institutions in pursuit of security. Again, you wrote this before Trump was back in office for his second term. What do you think are the risks for other countries for the world if the U.S.

continues to legitimize the Bukele regime as it creeps toward authoritarianism?

continues to legitimize the Bukele regime as it creeps toward authoritarianism?

continues to legitimize the Bukele regime as it creeps toward authoritarianism?

Vera, thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much. Before we let you go, a few other stories we're following. The United States will soon abandon its efforts to end the war in Ukraine if no progress is made in the next few days.

Vera, thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much. Before we let you go, a few other stories we're following. The United States will soon abandon its efforts to end the war in Ukraine if no progress is made in the next few days.

Vera, thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much. Before we let you go, a few other stories we're following. The United States will soon abandon its efforts to end the war in Ukraine if no progress is made in the next few days.