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Shyam Sankar

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's the quality of the code.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

There was. There was a lot of pushback. There's a lot of – kind of fake partnerships, like, hey, let's bring you in for some small, tiny amount of work share that will actually be zero. We don't really need you, is the vibe. But I would say, in fairness, when we first started, we thought the primes would be our big competitors.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

There was. There was a lot of pushback. There's a lot of – kind of fake partnerships, like, hey, let's bring you in for some small, tiny amount of work share that will actually be zero. We don't really need you, is the vibe. But I would say, in fairness, when we first started, we thought the primes would be our big competitors.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

There was. There was a lot of pushback. There's a lot of – kind of fake partnerships, like, hey, let's bring you in for some small, tiny amount of work share that will actually be zero. We don't really need you, is the vibe. But I would say, in fairness, when we first started, we thought the primes would be our big competitors.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

What I didn't realize is actually the government was our big competitor. The way that the government structured you have these program offices and they have the perfect five-year, 10-year plan. They kind of just want to lock in their plan. And we were a threat that disrupted all of their well-laid plans. Instead of adopting us, you know, they wanted to reject us.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

What I didn't realize is actually the government was our big competitor. The way that the government structured you have these program offices and they have the perfect five-year, 10-year plan. They kind of just want to lock in their plan. And we were a threat that disrupted all of their well-laid plans. Instead of adopting us, you know, they wanted to reject us.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

What I didn't realize is actually the government was our big competitor. The way that the government structured you have these program offices and they have the perfect five-year, 10-year plan. They kind of just want to lock in their plan. And we were a threat that disrupted all of their well-laid plans. Instead of adopting us, you know, they wanted to reject us.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And so if you really look at the early days of Palantir, all of our adoption was driven from the field back. You know, so all of our attempts to get people in DC really interested in what we're doing, it was in benefit of hindsight, was wasted time. You know, our first deployment, was with Tent Group as they took over Siege of Sotaph AP in Balad.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And so if you really look at the early days of Palantir, all of our adoption was driven from the field back. You know, so all of our attempts to get people in DC really interested in what we're doing, it was in benefit of hindsight, was wasted time. You know, our first deployment, was with Tent Group as they took over Siege of Sotaph AP in Balad.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And so if you really look at the early days of Palantir, all of our adoption was driven from the field back. You know, so all of our attempts to get people in DC really interested in what we're doing, it was in benefit of hindsight, was wasted time. You know, our first deployment, was with Tent Group as they took over Siege of Sotaph AP in Balad.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it's because the commander, the colonel, was just like, three days before deploying, he called us up. We had been showing him our software. He's like, well, I don't know. Like, I don't buy things. I'm a warfighter. I don't buy things. And three days before he was going, he just had that feeling, like, I need this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it's because the commander, the colonel, was just like, three days before deploying, he called us up. We had been showing him our software. He's like, well, I don't know. Like, I don't buy things. I'm a warfighter. I don't buy things. And three days before he was going, he just had that feeling, like, I need this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it's because the commander, the colonel, was just like, three days before deploying, he called us up. We had been showing him our software. He's like, well, I don't know. Like, I don't buy things. I'm a warfighter. I don't buy things. And three days before he was going, he just had that feeling, like, I need this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Like, if you guys come, drive for Fort Carson, I'll palletize your servers, and I'll give you four seats. And that's what happened. We just drove all our stuff over there, flew over. For two weeks, the Krusty Warren officers were like, why do I have to find housing for these 22-year-olds? Two weeks. But after that, we earned our keep. They're like, I know why they're here. You were over there?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Like, if you guys come, drive for Fort Carson, I'll palletize your servers, and I'll give you four seats. And that's what happened. We just drove all our stuff over there, flew over. For two weeks, the Krusty Warren officers were like, why do I have to find housing for these 22-year-olds? Two weeks. But after that, we earned our keep. They're like, I know why they're here. You were over there?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Like, if you guys come, drive for Fort Carson, I'll palletize your servers, and I'll give you four seats. And that's what happened. We just drove all our stuff over there, flew over. For two weeks, the Krusty Warren officers were like, why do I have to find housing for these 22-year-olds? Two weeks. But after that, we earned our keep. They're like, I know why they're here. You were over there?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I didn't go on that trip, but Matt Grimm, who is one of the co-founders of Andral, was working for me at the time. He went over on that trip. Greg Barbaccia, who's now the federal government CIO, he was one of our first guys on the ground in Balad. But you've been over there? Yeah. What was that like for you? It was eye-opening.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I didn't go on that trip, but Matt Grimm, who is one of the co-founders of Andral, was working for me at the time. He went over on that trip. Greg Barbaccia, who's now the federal government CIO, he was one of our first guys on the ground in Balad. But you've been over there? Yeah. What was that like for you? It was eye-opening.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I didn't go on that trip, but Matt Grimm, who is one of the co-founders of Andral, was working for me at the time. He went over on that trip. Greg Barbaccia, who's now the federal government CIO, he was one of our first guys on the ground in Balad. But you've been over there? Yeah. What was that like for you? It was eye-opening.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I mean, most of my time I spent at Leatherneck, so in Hellmond, working with the Marines. Nice place. I've been there. Dicey spot. What year? That was 2012, or 2011.