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Shyam Sankar

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Why should it take 30 years when Kelly Johnson could build as a single human at Skunk Works? He's the founder of Skunk Works. He could build 41 airframes in his career. He could build the U2 in 13 months.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I do. I mean, the reason I've been writing about it is that I'm wildly optimistic that we're on the verge of changing it. I feel like it's a little bit like a ketchup bottle. You know, you shake it, you shake it, you shake it, nothing comes out, and then it comes out all at once. Like, this has been building. And people can kind of feel this subconsciously.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I do. I mean, the reason I've been writing about it is that I'm wildly optimistic that we're on the verge of changing it. I feel like it's a little bit like a ketchup bottle. You know, you shake it, you shake it, you shake it, nothing comes out, and then it comes out all at once. Like, this has been building. And people can kind of feel this subconsciously.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I do. I mean, the reason I've been writing about it is that I'm wildly optimistic that we're on the verge of changing it. I feel like it's a little bit like a ketchup bottle. You know, you shake it, you shake it, you shake it, nothing comes out, and then it comes out all at once. Like, this has been building. And people can kind of feel this subconsciously.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

They can see it in the parts of the American economy that are working. which frankly are the only parts of the economy, you know, look at Europe, nothing's actually working over there. So like the parts of the world economy that are working look like this, the parts that don't, you see it with when Doge goes to DC, like there's a lot of noise, certainly from the other side around Doge,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

They can see it in the parts of the American economy that are working. which frankly are the only parts of the economy, you know, look at Europe, nothing's actually working over there. So like the parts of the world economy that are working look like this, the parts that don't, you see it with when Doge goes to DC, like there's a lot of noise, certainly from the other side around Doge,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

They can see it in the parts of the American economy that are working. which frankly are the only parts of the economy, you know, look at Europe, nothing's actually working over there. So like the parts of the world economy that are working look like this, the parts that don't, you see it with when Doge goes to DC, like there's a lot of noise, certainly from the other side around Doge,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But it's been amazing. You have people who are the NBA athletes of technology walking around kind of realizing like, oh, that's a seventh grade basketball team over there. And people who can call balls and strikes. And conversely, you can be like, that person in government is a genius. They're not empowered. We need to empower. This is the person who actually knows the right answers. We pull that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But it's been amazing. You have people who are the NBA athletes of technology walking around kind of realizing like, oh, that's a seventh grade basketball team over there. And people who can call balls and strikes. And conversely, you can be like, that person in government is a genius. They're not empowered. We need to empower. This is the person who actually knows the right answers. We pull that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But it's been amazing. You have people who are the NBA athletes of technology walking around kind of realizing like, oh, that's a seventh grade basketball team over there. And people who can call balls and strikes. And conversely, you can be like, that person in government is a genius. They're not empowered. We need to empower. This is the person who actually knows the right answers. We pull that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Doge has the ability to make those calls and to do so with taste. And that realignment is profoundly needed. Why do you think there is so much pushback on that?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Doge has the ability to make those calls and to do so with taste. And that realignment is profoundly needed. Why do you think there is so much pushback on that?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Doge has the ability to make those calls and to do so with taste. And that realignment is profoundly needed. Why do you think there is so much pushback on that?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's not supposed to work this way. We were following the playbook. We had a playbook. There's a system. It's this belief in process over outcomes. And it's profane to have to blow up all the process and to believe that everything that we believed in the past didn't actually work, or that there would be another way of organizing yourself that would be superior and would work better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's not supposed to work this way. We were following the playbook. We had a playbook. There's a system. It's this belief in process over outcomes. And it's profane to have to blow up all the process and to believe that everything that we believed in the past didn't actually work, or that there would be another way of organizing yourself that would be superior and would work better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's not supposed to work this way. We were following the playbook. We had a playbook. There's a system. It's this belief in process over outcomes. And it's profane to have to blow up all the process and to believe that everything that we believed in the past didn't actually work, or that there would be another way of organizing yourself that would be superior and would work better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And I think that's the subconscious undertone of the pushback. And then people, this, you know, it's like the best engineers are, like I said, with Hyman Rickover, he was hated by the Navy, but he was a national treasure. And can you hold that contradiction that, okay, yes, the engineer said something that hurt your feelings, but they're right. Can you hold that contradiction?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And I think that's the subconscious undertone of the pushback. And then people, this, you know, it's like the best engineers are, like I said, with Hyman Rickover, he was hated by the Navy, but he was a national treasure. And can you hold that contradiction that, okay, yes, the engineer said something that hurt your feelings, but they're right. Can you hold that contradiction?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And I think that's the subconscious undertone of the pushback. And then people, this, you know, it's like the best engineers are, like I said, with Hyman Rickover, he was hated by the Navy, but he was a national treasure. And can you hold that contradiction that, okay, yes, the engineer said something that hurt your feelings, but they're right. Can you hold that contradiction?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Are you optimizing the outcome? Because if you care about the outcome, that's easy to get over. It's like, yeah, you're right. So it's ego. It's all ego. What a shame, man. I think the results will speak for themselves. And I've seen this so many times. Once the bureaucracy gets out the way, you can often solve these problems inside of 30 days.