Sid Lowe

And the goal did count.

And what this former referee said to me was, they changed that rule in Spain precisely because of Raul Tamudo scoring that great goal in the Copa del Rey final.

And of course, that for me was the perfect evidence

that basically referees are looking for a reason to ruin everything.

Right, here you've got this great goal, you've got this wonderful moment, the Winter Cup Final, and the referees sit around and what do they think?

They think, yeah, how can we make this rubbish?

How can we take away this really fun moment?

Tell you what, let's ban it.

No, no, no.

Listen, I'm 100% in agreement that this shouldn't have counted because those are the rules.

I just kind of wish it could count because it's fun when that happens.

I think what would be even more fun, though, is that scene that Shaq has just... That scene that Shaq has just painted for us.

I love the idea of Shaq running around the penalty area with a centre-forward running after him.

preferably to the Benny Hill theme music.

Yeah, exactly.

I really like the footage of him running up the touchline with his arm around the ball boy.

I thought it was great.

And I think that's the way that you should be able to react when your goalkeeper has just scored a goal like that in the 97th minute.

I think if you don't go crazy, then when are you ever going to go crazy?

But you're right that the context of this is that Mourinho is very fond of a lot of people at Real Madrid, in particular Alvaro Ávila, who has said repeatedly how much he was on Mourinho's side, how important he thought Mourinho was.