Simon Elegant

I mean, there were some kids who clearly had hangovers every time they came in on the year off.

Imagine that.

Imagine that in college.

Somebody had a hangover.

There were enough that were interested, and actually the course that I taught was called, because everything in Chinese history is only really interpreted through the arrival of the West.

So from whatever it was when the Dutch first turned up, everything in China is about that, because they're still trying to figure out a way to deal with the fact that they're not basically the only power in the world, and they're still working out how do they do that.

But the problem I was going to say is that

These undergraduates, that course, when I was teaching it, the entire number of kids was maybe 150.

I don't think the program exists anymore.

There were so few.

And same with like Yale or Penn or whatever.

They all had programs and they're pretty much all gone, which means no people studying Chinese, no people hanging out with their Chinese roommates.

You know, it's just really bad for the U.S.

and for China.

So I say could be demonstrators, could be protesters, could be rioters.

You know, that's kind of the point of the book is it's ambiguous and there are many ways of looking at it.

And it's a complex situation.

Obviously, I think of my kids and my wife and so on.

Yeah, I think of my family.

But yeah, again, a very... I think I just mentioned earlier that Italians and Chinese are probably...