Simon Elegant

I mean, I could go on about the creativity thing and the issue of stars.

I mean, particularly the... But that is, again, I hate to say it, 2,500 years of the Mandarin class.

They never liked entrepreneurs.

If you were a merchant, you were very much third rate.

They're interested in stability, not in growth.

And that is the biggest thing to them.

And that remains the case.

That's why if you found...

If you found, say, Alibaba, you're the founder of Alibaba, you can disappear for a year while they remind you who's the boss and who's right.

And then you come out and basically move to Tokyo because Tokyo is a huge new place for Chinese exiles.

It was a great pleasure to talk to you, Anthony.

Good luck.