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He wanted to manage Bill Gates's money.

And that's where Melinda Gates particularly started sensing that this was not the kind of relationship that she believed the two of them ought to be pursuing.

But as I say, for three years, they were engaged in this conversation as Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein appeared to dance around one another, looking upon each other as

as possible people who could help each other out financially.

And I mean, at one point, Jeffrey Epstein was described in testimony as a friend collector.

And there was that certainly that sense among Mrs. Gates, according to Bill Gates, that that is how she viewed him.

He has said that he never engaged in any untoward or criminal or nefarious activity as a result of people that he was introduced to by Jeffrey Epstein, but he conceded in what was, according to at least one Republican on the committee, he described it as very carefully couched testimony.

He conceded to having had two affairs with women that

about which Jeffrey Epstein became aware.

And it was at that point that Jeffrey Epstein started to use his knowledge of Bill Gates's infidelities in a bid to try and put pressure, according to Mr Gates, on Mr Gates to engage in a business relationship that Mr Gates at that point was still not certain that he wanted to pursue.

And that email that Jeffrey Epstein sent Gates

to his own account, presumably for his own records, alleging that at one point he had helped Bill Gates secure a supply of antibiotics to deal with a sexually transmitted disease so that he could conceal it from his wife.

Bill Gates adamantly and vehemently denied that that had ever occurred.

Well, we should certainly get the full transcript of that testimony.

That should tumble from the committee before very much longer.

And remember that this committee is still digging and chiselling away at amassing fresh evidence about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

On the 23rd of July, they've got another big witness that will finally be giving testimony, Jess Staley.

the former chief executive of Barclays, who had, prior to his time at Barclays, an extensive relationship and friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.

That is the next big date in the House Oversight Committee's diary.

Yeah, and I think that that comes closest to being confirmed by the testimony of Bill Gates, which is why that testimony I think is going to be useful to the House Oversight Committee.