Simon Mathews

And then I think now as the industry has settled again, right, and we're playing baseball,

I think guys become really tethered to what drives major league winning.

And they know that's what gets them paid, right?

They know that's what gets them the next job.

They know that's what keeps them employed, right?

And in a lot of cases, it's this sort of outside opinion that becomes really attractive because they have ownership of it.

Right.

They can say, OK, I'm entering into this partnership with a facility that's going to provide me some resources that I seek and that it's going to help me in my career.

Right.

And I think ultimately the goal for us here is to be able to provide that information to our guys and to be that resource.

But it's it's really understandable when guys seek the ownership of it themselves.

No.

I think that's the short answer.

The long answer, man, is that

I wasn't very good as a pitcher, certainly at the end of my professional career.

And that soured my relationship with the game in a meaningful way.

And getting into coaching and getting into pro ball and then getting to the major leagues has really, like, driven my love for the game again in a way that just, like,

really makes me happy.

And I think Paul, Paul talks about joy a ton with how he wants our organization to function.

And that really, that really resonated with me because baseball has just been such a massive piece of my life.