Simon Rabinovitch

I think it's something that he... This is really just a reflection of the strength of his convictions. This is stuff that he truly, deeply believes in. And more than that, I think that the manner in which he speaks is something that helps to inspire people who work with him. And he does have... kind of a devoted group of small allies who kind of share his vision. He's not transactional.

He might say he's not corruptible. This is just stuff that he really wants to do.

He might say he's not corruptible. This is just stuff that he really wants to do.

He might say he's not corruptible. This is just stuff that he really wants to do.

Donald Trump famously throughout his life has engaged in a lot of behavior that is not particularly Christian. How did these two men get together? How does he end up with Donald Trump in the first administration?

Donald Trump famously throughout his life has engaged in a lot of behavior that is not particularly Christian. How did these two men get together? How does he end up with Donald Trump in the first administration?

Donald Trump famously throughout his life has engaged in a lot of behavior that is not particularly Christian. How did these two men get together? How does he end up with Donald Trump in the first administration?

Well, so Ruffo has an interesting transition over time from, you know, when he was a young Republican staffer, he was very much focused on kind of bread and butter fiscal conservatism. But then over the years, he got into more of a, you know, a MAGA style way of looking at government and ideology. And he was somebody who got involved in the Trump transition team.

Well, so Ruffo has an interesting transition over time from, you know, when he was a young Republican staffer, he was very much focused on kind of bread and butter fiscal conservatism. But then over the years, he got into more of a, you know, a MAGA style way of looking at government and ideology. And he was somebody who got involved in the Trump transition team.

Well, so Ruffo has an interesting transition over time from, you know, when he was a young Republican staffer, he was very much focused on kind of bread and butter fiscal conservatism. But then over the years, he got into more of a, you know, a MAGA style way of looking at government and ideology. And he was somebody who got involved in the Trump transition team.

As you'll remember, there wasn't an incredibly deep bench of people back in 2017. Mm-hmm. And so he was appointed to the OMB. He was a deputy director. Eventually, in the final year, he became director of OMB. And I think the thing for vote is that he sees Trump as a vehicle for for pushing forward his ideas. So he talks about the fact that, you know, for example, abortion.

As you'll remember, there wasn't an incredibly deep bench of people back in 2017. Mm-hmm. And so he was appointed to the OMB. He was a deputy director. Eventually, in the final year, he became director of OMB. And I think the thing for vote is that he sees Trump as a vehicle for for pushing forward his ideas. So he talks about the fact that, you know, for example, abortion.

As you'll remember, there wasn't an incredibly deep bench of people back in 2017. Mm-hmm. And so he was appointed to the OMB. He was a deputy director. Eventually, in the final year, he became director of OMB. And I think the thing for vote is that he sees Trump as a vehicle for for pushing forward his ideas. So he talks about the fact that, you know, for example, abortion.

This is something that he's quite passionate about. But yet all of these anti-abortion politicians in the Republican Party who failed to do anything, but it was Trump who ultimately was the one who, you know, through his Supreme Court appointments, was able to kill Roe versus Wade.

This is something that he's quite passionate about. But yet all of these anti-abortion politicians in the Republican Party who failed to do anything, but it was Trump who ultimately was the one who, you know, through his Supreme Court appointments, was able to kill Roe versus Wade.

This is something that he's quite passionate about. But yet all of these anti-abortion politicians in the Republican Party who failed to do anything, but it was Trump who ultimately was the one who, you know, through his Supreme Court appointments, was able to kill Roe versus Wade.

And so Vote, I think, sees Trump as just a critical ally, as somebody who's, you know, even if he doesn't agree with him on a day-to-day basis or on many issues, the grand vision is something where he sees alignment.

And so Vote, I think, sees Trump as just a critical ally, as somebody who's, you know, even if he doesn't agree with him on a day-to-day basis or on many issues, the grand vision is something where he sees alignment.

And so Vote, I think, sees Trump as just a critical ally, as somebody who's, you know, even if he doesn't agree with him on a day-to-day basis or on many issues, the grand vision is something where he sees alignment.

For four years, the Trump vehicle had more or less stalled. The president lost the 2020 election and was cast out into Florida. What was Russ Vogt doing then?