Simone Rocha

And that's what, with the men's, what I love is finding this more grounded proposition, this more coded, I don't want to say wardrobe, but like this idea of clothing as a proposition more than just clothing.

The emotional side of it.

And I think having some of those real pieces at the very beginning was really integral to that.

Yeah, and I think for me as well, I think women wear uniforms as well.

I think it's about, it's almost like a security blanket, you know what I mean?

I think there's something in these kind of security notions, like, and especially...

I think with the menswear, looking at pieces that, you know, being more strict on the pieces.

Why are they that way?

How do they feel?

What are they made of?

How do they function?

You know, you can't hide it under a tutu, for example.

And I actually loved the rigor of it.

You know, for me, what's been really exciting is bringing in this emotion to that rigor and seeing what you can create and propose.

Well, it's a similar answer to when it's who is the woman, because I can never pick one woman either.

You know, I always say it's a femininity.

And, you know, with the men, it's the same.

It's kind of a more tender, intimate masculinity that I'm trying to look for.

But, yeah, I can't put it down to one man, really, if I'm being honest.

But, you know, I've loved some of the men that have worn it, of course.