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I suppose in theory, there's no way to stop him from coming. So if he came as Jay-Z's guest, for example, right? Yeah, that's true. If he comes as Jay-Z's guest, Ben Conn then say, hey, dude, you're not welcome here.

I suppose in theory, there's no way to stop him from coming. So if he came as Jay-Z's guest, for example, right? Yeah, that's true. If he comes as Jay-Z's guest, Ben Conn then say, hey, dude, you're not welcome here.

No, he's genuinely... Even how he handled that was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

No, he's genuinely... Even how he handled that was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

No, he doesn't.

No, he doesn't.

You just wish the internet doesn't exist. Yeah, I guess so. Well, in all fairness, I do need a certain, I think there's like a certain amount of accountability that they need to be held to.

You just wish the internet doesn't exist. Yeah, I guess so. Well, in all fairness, I do need a certain, I think there's like a certain amount of accountability that they need to be held to.

No, but okay, okay. On his behalf, I see why people are offended.

No, but okay, okay. On his behalf, I see why people are offended.

Oh, this guy. I can't even. I was going to say, this is actually the issue, though, with a lot of the, I'll say, podcast culture or the people that end up broadcasting without putting in the 10,000 hours, right? Because back in the day, if you ended up with any kind of a platform, you would have done things like a small television station or whatever it is. That's actually true.

Oh, this guy. I can't even. I was going to say, this is actually the issue, though, with a lot of the, I'll say, podcast culture or the people that end up broadcasting without putting in the 10,000 hours, right? Because back in the day, if you ended up with any kind of a platform, you would have done things like a small television station or whatever it is. That's actually true.

And you get to the point where you know how to deal with the red carpet moments, which is largely unscripted. Anything happens. Now, what you end up with is people that obviously have a very, very strong following, but they haven't got the experience behind them to be able to know to do something like that. Sorry.

And you get to the point where you know how to deal with the red carpet moments, which is largely unscripted. Anything happens. Now, what you end up with is people that obviously have a very, very strong following, but they haven't got the experience behind them to be able to know to do something like that. Sorry.

Inside the venue? Yeah.

Inside the venue? Yeah.

And I'll tell you why. Whenever there's been a big moment and Kanye knows that he can seize it, he will. Funny enough, MTV Awards, I don't even know what year it was, when he stepped on stage and Justice vs. Simeon won the video for Video of the Year. Yeah. And he had... What's that?

And I'll tell you why. Whenever there's been a big moment and Kanye knows that he can seize it, he will. Funny enough, MTV Awards, I don't even know what year it was, when he stepped on stage and Justice vs. Simeon won the video for Video of the Year. Yeah. And he had... What's that?

Oh, yeah. Anyway, that video. He had that video nominated.

Oh, yeah. Anyway, that video. He had that video nominated.