Skip Atwater
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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So when I got back as a lieutenant, I went into colonel's office and he said, well, lieutenant, you're coming to me to tell me where you want to get assigned. And I said, well, sir, it's a little bit different than that. And he said, well, what's that? And I said, there's a book here by some scientists called MindReach out at Stanford Research Institute.
And they're studying something called remote viewing. And he said, well, what's that? And I said, that's why I'm bringing you this book, sir. I think this is very dangerous and a threat to the counterintelligence work we do. And he said, well, leave the book with me, Lieutenant, and come on back tomorrow and we'll talk about this. Came back tomorrow and he said, Lieutenant, I think you're right.
And that's when he reassigned me to the Pentagon, which I never got to. So that's the beginning of it, of how I got into remote viewing. Started back at Fort Huachuca with Rob Cowart, deciding this isn't right. We should be doing something. This is our job to watch this. And then things switched back and forth from...
the idea of not getting to the Pentagon, that wasn't the place I should be, because arrangements were made, and wound up at Fort Meade behind the green door. And I was given a room behind the green door after I passed all my security clearances and everything, and dug through the safes in the room And I reached down into this one and picked it up.
Those are three classified documents on remote viewing. Wait a minute. I thought all this remote viewing stuff was done since I didn't go to the Pentagon like it was planned that I was going to go do that. What is this stuff anyway? So I read through it. And Major Keenan, my boss then, was down the hallway, and I came out and said, what is it, Lieutenant?
I wasn't the regular lieutenant because I'd been in the Army 10 years as an enlisted man, so they had a little more respect for me. And I took these in and I said, sir, I found these three documents here, and they're all about remote viewing. And he said, oh, yeah, Lieutenant Colonel Skotsko was over there. And he was very interested in that.
General Thompson was the one that was looking after that. What was that all about? And General Thompson in this story becomes Major General Thompson later. And there's a term in the military called getting a grandfather term. meaning there's somebody who's going to take care of you and make sure you do the right thing.
Turns out General Thompson was my grandfather because Kenan, Major Kenan, who I went to with these documents, knew General Thompson. And he said, I've got a guy in here that knows about this. What's his name? Atwater. He said, you let Atwater do whatever he wants to do. And I didn't know that was happening. Interesting.
But I knew General Thompson knew Kit Green and the CIA, and they'd been working together, and he knew all about this stuff that the CIA was doing. So General Thompson had his finger on me through Major Keenan, and he said, well, what should we do about this? Well, we should recruit some people to do this. And how are you going to do that, Lieutenant?
I said, well, I think we ought to interview some people that have security clearances so that they can do the kind of work we do at looking at the counterintelligence problem. That was the beginning before it was called Stargate. That was the beginning of doing this.
First, what we decided to do, my South... Major Keenan got another officer in and was going to be my boss because I was just a lieutenant and we needed somebody that was a lieutenant colonel to do this. And someone who'd been around INSCOM so that he could go talk to anybody he wanted and had lots of clearances and stuff.
And so he was going to be my boss and I was going to be the remote viewing expert, which I had to invent, but that's okay. And we decided that we should survey the people around the greater Washington, D.C. area where Indians come. And we thought, well, they have to be assignable.
There's a lot of people in the Army that said, I need to do this job now so I can get promoted then, and I need to do that job here, and we need to do that job there. And they build up a career pattern of jobs that they have to work out promotion. We had to find somebody that didn't think that way. So we— looked at a pool of about 200 people around the greater Washington, D.C.
area that were Army people and civilians, male, female. And we took newspaper clippings that talked about people who had a near-death experience and people who had this happen to them, newspaper-type reporting of psychic stuff. And we'd take it to him and say, the boss has asked us to come around and see whether or not people would think some of these people could help us in the Army some way.
If they can do what they say, maybe they could help us in the Army some way. And we would both ask questions, my major, and my south, that time just a lieutenant, and we would, this one would ask and then this one would ask and we'd see if they would agree. And then we would say, well, let's talk to them a little bit further.
And then when we finished that process, we told SRI what we're doing and they made an arrangement to do a exposure of these people and we were going to pick three people and i tried to use the word to train he said oh no no no no we don't train people we evaluate people but we don't train people okay don't use the word train when you talk to Stanford Research Institute.
That's what I learned as a little lieutenant. And so I said, so for our orientation, we want to do three people. And meanwhile, we recruited these people by the method I told you of showing them the newspapers. And some of them weren't the right people. And when we told them, we had six people selected that It was like six or eight at that time that we brought in. They didn't all stay.
They said, well, I thought I wanted to do this, but my wife wants to move and I can't do it, and so forth and so on. Puthoff and Targ heard about it and they said, well, we want to interview them. We don't want you to select which ones. We want to do the interview with them to see if they're suitable for our evaluation.
So they came to Fort Meade and we brought all these people in and put off and tarred and talked to them about it and liked the people and shook their hands and everything. And then we went out to lunch, put off and tarred, and Scotty Watt and me went out to lunch and they were whispering at each other and whispering at each other and finally put off, said, well,
I don't think we want to take three people." He says, I want those six guys. Well, how about the agreement we had on how much money we had to pay you to evaluate the three people? He says, we'll do it for the same price. Those people sound good to us and we'll deal with them. So they eventually took the six people out there and then later on,
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