Smithy Sodine

They take the really small business and scale it up and really fast.

And I want to do that, but by doing that, I believe that I'll have a lot to lose.

Well, I would say that I had that in my 30s.

Like, it was a time to build a career, a family, and to make sure that you're financially stable for your family, right?

I did have to pay college tuitions for our children.

We did have to pay college tuition.

So we worked really hard so that I could have this time where I can really think about what I want to do moving forward.

to really follow something that I really liked and I'm interested in.

So I wake up every day, I'm interested about going to work.

I spend hours online looking at fabrics.

I love this.

So I had to work really, we had to grind first in order for me to have this time.

And I think there are a lot of people who do do that.

Why in my situation when you get to later on in life and

You still want to work, but you don't want to do things that you don't enjoy doing.

So I do very well financially selling pillows and I love doing it.

I'm actually making money doing something that I used to do for free for people.

So that's amazing.

He's from Bed Bath & Beyond.

Yes.