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Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

Welcome to the Astral Codex X podcast for the 29th of October 2021.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

Title, Jharnas and the Darkroom Problem.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

This is an audio version of Scott Alexander's blog Astral Codex X. If you like the blog, consider supporting it on Substack, astralcodex10.substack.com.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

You can find the link in the podcast description.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

The dark room problem, Lincoln Post, in neuroscience, goes something like this.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

Suppose the brain is minimizing prediction error or free energy or whatever.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

You can minimize lots of things by sitting quietly in a dark room.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

Everything will be very, very predictable.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

So how come people do other things?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

The usual workaround is inbuilt biological drives, considered as set points.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

You predict that you will be well fed, so getting hungry registers as prediction error and brings you out of your dark room to eat, etc.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

Andres Gomez-Emilson recently shared a perspective I hadn't considered before, which is, actually, sitting quietly in a dark room is really great.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

The Buddha discussed states of extreme bliss attainable through meditation.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

Quote, Secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states, a bhikkhu enters and dwells in the first jhana, which is accompanied by thought and examination, with rapture and happiness born of seclusion.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

But I think, maybe, he just means stimuli full stop.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

The mediator cuts themselves from all sensory stimuli, for example by meditating really hard on a single object like the breath, and ignoring everything else, and as a result gets, quote, rapture and happiness born of seclusion.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

The serious meditators I know say this is real, meaningful, and you could experience it after a few months of careful practice.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

You become really good at concentrating on one stimulus and ignoring all other stimuli, and eventually your brain kind of gets in tune with that stimulus and it's really blissful.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

They say this seems to have something to do with the regularity or predictability of the stimulus.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Jhanas and the Dark Room Problem

If you're concentrating really hard on something, regularity, predictability, symmetry is just viscerally really good.

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