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Sonia Gray

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

It's a protein that helps form connections in the brain.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

And I think the beauty of that study is that these are things probably we all knew, I'm sure a lot of teachers knew, but until it's kind of in black and white, until a scientist has said, look what we've found, there's still that thing of, yes, we know it's harder for him, but everybody knows the rules, just sit still.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

And it's validating, I think.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

That's what I, as a member of the ADHD community, I was like, this is something that we can go...

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Look, here it is.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Scientists have found this.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

I don't know why it should be different, but something that's measurable tends to get better traction.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

And part of the broader reach of the study is to do just that.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Something that has interested me from when I first went into that scanner back in 2022 is that I don't fidget.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Not a fidgeter, or at least I thought I wasn't.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

But then I realised that fidgeting comes in many forms.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

You can see I'm moving my hands a lot.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Yes.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

There is no way, if you said to me right now, you've got to speak without moving your hands, I couldn't.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Yeah.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

And we don't even, look at me, we don't even realise we're doing it.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

So do you think you'll get to a point anytime soon where you could put someone like me into a scanner for 15 minutes, say, and use it as a kind of a diagnostic tool?

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

Full disclosure, Gil was absolutely right.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

I could see his mouth moving, I could hear the words coming out, but I couldn't listen and process this complex information at the same time.

No Such Thing as Normal
33. What can science tell us about neurodivergent brains?

So, let's come back to the science to try and understand what is going on here.