Sophia Lynn Lakin

provisions at the state level constitutions to try to do what we can to rein in the excesses that we anticipate coming from this ruling and we're already seeing.

Well, I don't want to be a pessimist here.

I want to be an eternal optimist, and I am.

And I want to say absolutely yes.

And the example that you have given with respect to Indiana, I think that was certainly a bright spot.

But, you know, there were...

People in California, legislators in California, legislators in Texas, both of whom introduced bills in Congress while this was happening to say, hey, you know, this is a bridge too far.

We need to start reining this in.

You know, I think this is one of those moments, this decision from the Supreme Court is one of these moments where we're going to see, unfortunately, a fallout from this that I hope people are appalled by and will look to their own conscience about this and say, this is not the country we want to be and take action.