Sophie Duker
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I can't stay mad at her.
I know she did some bad things, but I think she is sort of an inspiration.
Oh, my God.
I'm like, put him on an island.
If Sir Stuart has, you know, 100 fans, I am one of them.
If she has 10 fans, I am one of them.
If she has 10 fans, I've been poisoned by a bad cake.
I think it was honestly not chaotic, but like such a full life and so many people to sort of like manage and manoeuvre.
And I feel that she, at the end, managed to like leave not kind of disgraced with sort of her legacy intact.
I mean, not morally, but in terms of she didn't die in indignity or anything like that.
And so I think that's pretty impressive.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, the family tree is overgrown.
Her childhood name was Lan.
Yeah, Lan, which meant?
Orchid girl.
Superhero.
Oh, he had a metaphorical bind of women, all their names on a tray, and he would turn it round if he wanted to see them.
She was at level six.
With her fellow Empress Dowager, Sir An.