Sophie Hallwright

And I'm so, it's so obvious that I struggle with change because I remember when she rebranded the business.

And at the time, like immediately for the first week, I was like, oh, I loved the old branding.

I really don't like it.

And then two weeks later, I'm obsessed with the new brand.

It's really interesting, the psychology around, like when you know something and it's familiar, it's really weird when it changes.

Oh, yeah.

It's everywhere.

I feel like with this whole energy disruption, when it first happened, and even really in the last few weeks, I've been, I guess, of the mindset that hopefully this is then going to mean that we fast track other energy solutions, the world becomes a bit more, I don't know, proactive and not relying on oil, blah, blah, blah.

Like I sort of saw it as maybe this is like a really good thing for the world.

And so on the inflation point, because I've seen lots of things floating around and people talking about, you know, if in the next three months we don't get –

this moving it's already a macro like global issue but people saying if this continues for a certain period of time it's pretty likely that the whole world goes into a recession I know you can't say yes that's true because obviously we don't know what's going to happen but why is that impact so enormous the point where the whole world would fall into a recession if this doesn't open

And really what the actual hell, one thing like that can have ripple effects on their, like every economy is so weird.

I did want to ask you a question on a global recession is one thing, but I've also seen headlines about the

So is it more the idea that the governments or people that have the money to be able to help their country, they can be the ones that take the hit rather than people in the country?

So that's an example of the government stepping in and a more, I guess, wealthy economy and saying, don't worry, we'll help you out.

But then they go into more debt.

Like the furlough in London when people lost their jobs.

Yeah.

But that money has to be paid back or got from somewhere, which means you have to cut healthcare or you have to cut education projects or you have to cut – you know, like it's such a balancing act of like – Honestly, the more that I learn about the economy, the more I just never want to be dealing with – and I just cannot even imagine the pressure and the jigsaw puzzle of trying to like sort this out.

And the person sitting there being like, yeah, because it was that or this or this or this.