Sophie Hyde

That was a kind of surprise to me.

Usually you try and have a little bit more of a veneer over your films and like pretend they're not so much about you.

I mean, when I took that idea to my co-writer, Matt, he said, I'm interested in this, but I really am interested in the character in the middle, the person who's the parent of the teenager and the child of the grandfather.

I really want to know what's going on for her.

And so that was where we kind of started writing from.

As soon as we'd written, we were always like, who could this be?

Olivia Colman.

But it was sort of a joke, like we'll never get Olivia Colman.

We couldn't get her to play this role.

So right at the start.

I mean, some of that quote comes from like some humour, which is an idea that you have a character who's.

who's non-confrontational and she wants to make a film that's non-confrontational as well.

And the kind of the humour of that, you know, to see that and to watch a character who on the one hand you think, oh, that's very, you know, that's a very kind of like lofty aim.

Like that's a great aim to seek this out.

Or is it repression?

You kind of have this ability to kind of look at somebody in multiple ways.

But I think kindness is a really specific word.

And I don't think it's always as nice and as soft and as gentle as we kind of, you know, use it.

I think it's a very robust choice to choose kindness.

It's not about just being like sweet to everybody.