Sophie Hyde

Like, it's a pleasure like to direct both of them in different ways.

It's tough to direct your own child because I hold a lot of responsibility for them and I don't want them to hold too much responsibility.

There's another thing going on.

But also I really felt in safe hands with Ord and with Olivia, just, you know, the instinct.

And I always felt that there was something new being brought to like every moment of that.

So I felt always a great ease with that.

I mean, it's incredible.

Like the three of them are like a fabulous sort of triangle of difference, I think, that kind of really complement each other.

I do think of it kind of as an ensemble too.

So we had these other great actors who could come in and round something out.

And I felt like everyone was getting a chance to play in different ways in the scene, which was really thrilling.

Like the best thing being a filmmaker is being with and watching actors like find each other and like bounce off each other.

So, I mean, it's extraordinary.

I mean, you're right.

John just walks in and he's like this giant personality, this giant, like, thespian.

You know, it's very exciting.

Oh, surprisingly difficult.

But I think that's the case for a lot of films now, particularly at this moment.

It was, I mean...

it's not easy to finance an indie film even with the best people in it, do you know?