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Medicalizing a Schedule I substance.

What?

You know?

How is this even possible?

But the story gets even more interesting.

He gives me his card and he says, contact me.

What the heck is going on here?

At this point, I'm already telling my current, my retired chief what's going on.

I'm meeting these people.

And MAPS gets me into one of the first interviews.

MDMA assisted therapist trainings, a cohort of people that they trained on how to do this methodology with people.

So you got to know what's going on, right?

I mean, when someone's on MDMA, they're different and you got to hold that.

You got to hold that.

But not only did they do that, MAPS contacts me and says, we might be able to get you into a federally sanctioned research protocol

as a healthy normal, because I'm an example of a healthy normal, right?

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Are you going to be able to experience MDMA?

Because they think that it's important for the therapists to know what MDMA does.

So, I mean, really?