SPEAKER_02

And the only coherent worldview is that individuals have rights.

There aren't these massive rights.

It's like Mitt Romney saying corporations are people or something like that.

But I think all people have the right to exist.

I think Israel does not have a right to do what it's doing to Gaza.

And, you know, the...

And the real question is how does this end?

Well, it seems to be with ethnically cleansing, the entire strip seems the most likely bet right now.

Yeah, it's like 80% of the structures have been leveled.

Yeah, something like the PR.

Yeah.

Well, also part of the reason why, you know, it's like because I don't know.

People have just you don't have the controlled propaganda apparatus anymore.

And so the thing is now for the people like obviously there are still a lot of people who just don't really pay attention, you know, that deeply.

But for somebody who's listening, let's say to Netanyahu's interview with with Constantine.

I'd have to say like a large portion of them at this point, you're listening to podcasts about politics, right?

Like you're not completely removed from this world.

There have been so many Israel-Palestine debates over the last two years.

It's almost everyone who's watching this has at least seen what some competent person on the other side of this issue has had to say.

And so like one of the times, you know, they brought up at one point and they really did, you know, I thought Constantine did a reasonably good job in the interview.