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Never would have happened on my watch, but Obama gave Putin Ukraine.

And you're like, no, dude, that's not, just go back two months earlier in that same year.

The problem wasn't that Obama gave Putin Ukraine.

The problem was that Obama took Ukraine away from Vladimir Putin.

As I've played on your show and you played with Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence has sat right here where I'm sitting and watched Gideon Rose explain to Stephen Colbert exactly what we're doing here.

Russia, as Gideon Rose, the editor of Foreign Affairs Magazine, said, Russia is Batman.

Ukraine is Robin.

We are stealing Robin away from Batman.

That's what the made-on revolution was.

That's why the USAID and the NED poured $100 million into the street protest, right?

And so they overthrew the government, and then a bunch of the former Ukrainian prime ministers started floating out that we should tear up the Sevastopol lease.

In Crimea, because this is Russia's only year-long warm water naval port.

They've always had it.

This was their agreement.

They had like a 50-year lease or something like that.

But after the West backed a coup that overthrew the government and put in a pro-Western government, they started talking big like, well, maybe we'll tear up that lease.

And so Vladimir Putin went, no.

I'll just take it.

And that was like, so anyway, so he goes back to that, doesn't go back a few months earlier and then misses the entire point that no.

So, cause like the point is that it's not just like me being like, oh, I wish Donald Trump was into the same books I'm into or something like that.