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And that's a crazy thing to say at the beginning of a war.

But the thing is that whether you consider what Israel is doing a genocide or you just take the moderate position of former Israeli prime ministers who say it's war crimes, I think the bigger point is just like –

It is so horrifically evil.

No one should support this.

It's just it's crazy.

It is it is so insane to support Israel doing this to what are in effect their own people.

They may not consider them their own people, but I don't care what they consider.

I care what they have power over.

You know, like the.

You know, Hitler maybe didn't consider the Jews his own people, but doesn't matter, dude.

Once you have control of that country, those people are your people like you have an obligation to them.

Israel has had control of Gaza since 1967.

They've been the sovereign.

And all the way through, you know, people could talk about the disengagement in 2005, but that doesn't mean anything.

They still controlled the whole strip.

They just didn't have their soldiers inside.

They had them around the perimeter.

It doesn't matter.

You're still controlling those people.

And so, like, if you have resistance, even violent resistance to a 60-year-long occupation...