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And someone will still start with the question, like, do you think Israel has the right to exist?

And isn't it amazing that over the last two years, that's been the question that's asked so much when very clearly a more relevant question would have been, does Gaza have a right to exist?

Because it doesn't now.

That was the only existence that was ever up for debate.

But they flipped the thing around and go, well, you don't think Israel has a right to exist?

First of all, I don't think governments have rights at all.

I think that's a totally incoherent worldview.

And the only coherent worldview is that individuals have rights.

There aren't these massive rights.

It's like Mitt Romney saying corporations are people or something like that.

But I think all people have the right to exist.

I think Israel does not have a right to do what it's doing to Gaza.

And, you know, the...

And the real question is how does this end?

Well, it seems to be with ethnically cleansing, the entire strip seems the most likely bet right now.

Yeah, it's like 80% of the structures have been leveled.

Yeah, something like the PR.

Yeah.

Well, also part of the reason why, you know, it's like because I don't know.

People have just you don't have the controlled propaganda apparatus anymore.