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Now, I think we have a way better situation than that.

I think that— Good, because you're freaking me out.

Well, look, I think that tyranny has always relied on propaganda.

And that we are running an experiment for like the first time where they're flying with no net.

They don't have a propaganda apparatus anymore, like at all.

Donald Trump can't even control what Tucker Carlson is going to say.

You know what I mean?

You can't even count on your most influential right-wing voice in America to go.

There was never anything like this before.

Even just in recent times, there was never something George W. Bush could have done where you'd be like, tonight on Fox News, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are going to tear him apart.

It didn't exist.

There was never anything Obama could have done where Rachel Maddow was going to tear him apart over that.

We have that for the first time now.

People are waking up in a way to this stuff that's never happened before.

And I think that gives us enormous potential for positive things to happen in the future.

And the other thing that's happening is that economically speaking, our system is being pushed

to a point where eventually they're gonna have to call it quits on all of this.

We just can't keep going up.

I think it was, I forget the exact recent numbers, but it's something like it's over $1.2 trillion a year just on interest on the debt.

Interest on the debt is like overtaking the entire budget.