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Yeah, my good friend who I mentioned quite a bit, but Scott Horton, who is, I think, the best foreign policy voice in the United States of America, and he wrote the best book on the terror wars called Enough Already and the best book on the war in Ukraine called Provoked.

So Bob Woodward's latest book came out, and I remember he told me about this.

So he just happened to be writing his book on Ukraine recently.

when he saw this new Bob Woodward book came out, and they had a quote in it, I believe it was a Sergei Lavrov quote, who's like Putin's right-hand man, and Scott said he's reading it, and he goes, this quote's all wrong.

He goes, the actual quote, he was just researching this for his book, and he goes, the quote means the exact opposite of what he's claiming it means here.

Like, see how he left out this part?

He wasn't referring to this.

He was referring to that.

And then he just, I remember he just told me, he goes like, so for the record, like you can just never trust anything Bob Woodward says because he'll take this quote and just get it, mangle it to the point where it, he's presenting it as if it means 180 degrees opposite of what the quote actually meant.

And so, yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that.

And then that guy is like the historian of record.

He was like a journalistic hero.

Well, and he's how we know.

He's how you know that in that moment, Dick Cheney turned to George W. Bush and said, Mr. President, I think we need to.

And then you're like, oh, but he just makes shit up.

But also, just think about how much they could get.

I remember, I don't know.

I was in school.

And I remember hearing like my history teacher talking to another teacher.

And this was when Bill Clinton was getting in trouble for Monica Lewinsky.