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Which, of course, is a problem.

I wish I had my – I don't have my phone here.

But we do have a picture of one next to the helicopter about 200 feet away.

And it's just kind of a fuzzy white blob against a blue sky.

But it was there.

It's not a cloud and it's not a balloon.

It's not discernible as anything obvious, but it was there and it happened during one of these events out in the middle of the desert.

So, the idea is, behind Skywatcher, is to see if there are ways to get them to show up, and if so, in a reproducible manner, and then have the right kind of simultaneous multi-sensor capabilities to measure it, meaning radar, IR, visual people on the ground.

What are they sending to get these things to go?

What signal?

James has a signal that unfortunately he won't, I don't know what it is.

He won't let everybody know what the bat signal is?

Well, I mean, you know, I mean, maybe, yeah, exactly.

I mean, it sounds kind of silly, but I mean, why would you put that out on the internet?

Because, you know, you might render it useless.

They're like, I'm not going to show up.

Everybody's using it now.

Oh, so you think it's a trick?

Like it tricks them into showing up?

I don't know.