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So maybe there's some sort of homage paid construct.

Right.

To the ancestors or something like that, whatever they are.

So there are some ones that you clearly look at, you go, oh, come on.

Right.

That never lived.

Then there's the fetal position ones.

Then there's the fetal position ones, the big ones.

Yeah.

And I was at the beginning – I'm always open to being wrong.

Right.

I was at the beginning thinking, oh, well, because of the small ones, those are probably not real.

But then the MRIs started coming out, the full-body MRIs and the ligature and the bone construction and then perhaps most, I think, extraordinarily, the fingerprints on them being clearly not human.

So it's interesting.

But here's the problem is that because there's so much circus around them, unfortunately created by people who want a circus because it sells their TV shows, no scientist of any merit would go near it.

So I was approached many times, many times to study them.

And I said, I'll do it on one condition.

Here's the money I need, not personally, but here's the money I need to do the kinds of analysis to accomplish this right.

Second, there will be no TV cameras.

And you won't hear from me again until I'm ready to talk.