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The rules – there are the rules that you're supposed to follow and then there's the edge of the rules.

But I've lived at the edge of the rules.

I mean if I followed my rules as –

told to me by the chairman of my first department, then I wouldn't be here today.

So I ignored him and I basically found I got permissions from the deans to do what I did.

And they basically overruled the chairman.

But that's only because I dared to do it.

Because you have to believe in the value of what you're trying to do.

The stock market, as valuable as it is, is the great whitewashing and money laundering system that allows you to separate your morals –

from what it is that the stock market is doing to the people.

I'm an unapologetic capitalist, unlike many of my colleagues- Good for you.

... at Stanford.

I mean, it's like, do it because it's the best thing for now.

But I hope to live in a world where there will be this kind of post-scarcity environment where we do let AI do a lot of the stuff that would otherwise be the place where corruption manipulates the systems.

Yeah.

I agree.

No, I don't.

I'm in some ways happy that I'm 64 years old and I'm not going to have to deal with some of the problems.

Yeah.

You know, I think it should.