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As long as you don't make crazy conclusions and you just say, here's the data, to show people that you can publish this stuff as long as you're scientifically careful in how far you go, you leave yourself plenty of diplomatic exits in the verbiage that you use.

And it was part of what then got me to start the Soul Foundation.

along with Dave and others to say, look, it's okay to do this as long as you're careful.

And that's why people, I mean, Avi Loeb came after me because he had kind of the same pushback from his community where all he was doing was saying,

The question is on the table.

I'm not saying it's true.

It's just you can't push this off the table.

So he had the same kind of righteous indignation that I have that propels me to say, well, I'm going to show you why you can't take this off the table.

I think it's a byproduct of some process that might – again, might, might, might.

Might, might, might.

Extract.

It might be part of a propellant system.

It might be part of the way that they generate the fields that allow these things to move.

Again, these are all mights.

It's speculation.

But it's like when you see something and do something that you don't understand what it is, you have to be fully open.

I mean for all I know, they're flushing the toilet.

Yeah.

They got metal poop.

But I have the original Polaroids from the police department of it.