Spencer Bailey

I'm still doing it.

And then around 25 years old or so, Surface Magazine enters your life almost unexpectedly.

How did you first discover the magazine and how would you describe it at that time?

Do you remember the website Media Bistro?

Of course I do.

Of course I do.

I mean, for those listening who don't know Media Bistro, it was like where everyone who wanted to work in media would go look at their potential jobs.

This was before, like, you know, the Indeeds of the world.

That's how I met Jen Beckman.

Yeah.

I mean, now everyone just goes on LinkedIn.

They had posted a job for an assistant editor, and I was like, what is this magazine?

Surface, you know, I'm a word nerd, right?

So all of a sudden I'm like, Surface, that's a great name for a magazine.

Super interesting.

I wonder what it's about.

I went to the local Barnes & Noble and picked it up, and it kind of, you know, it was avant-garde.

It looked like an intern designed it.

That wasn't far from the truth.

It needed some work, but they were definitely evolving it at that time.