Spencer Christensen

The world that we live in is so artificial in every way imaginable.

I mean, your relationships with other people are artificial.

A lot of the content that you see, and even more so now with AI, right?

And I think that our brains as humans aren't really designed to function like that, right?

I think that we're designed to have real connections with real people, not online and certainly not AI connections.

It's really deep, intrinsic, embedded need that people have to connect with nature.

One thing that really, really would help an entrepreneur, if you're trying to build any sort of business,

Yeah, so it's a lodge in western Colorado.

It's on a mountain called Grand Mesa.

The lodge itself is called Grand Mesa Lodge.

It's 15, 16 cabins and a main lodge.

And I think that we're the highest lodge in the continental United States that operates year-round.

Very cool.

So we're about two miles above sea level.

10,500 feet.

The mountains are really interesting, and the lodge is very unique.

The lodge was actually started not by me.

It's existed since the 19th century.

It was started in 1897, I think.

And in the early days, it was just a fishing lodge where people would ride their horses up and stay for a couple months in the summertime.