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Spencer Rascoff

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Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

And that's because the voyeurism and virality of seeing what people's houses are worth is so significant of being able to Zillow all your friends and see what your ex-girlfriend's house is worth and what your parents' house is worth and what your boss's house is worth and what your podcast interviewer's house is worth.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

And that's because the voyeurism and virality of seeing what people's houses are worth is so significant of being able to Zillow all your friends and see what your ex-girlfriend's house is worth and what your parents' house is worth and what your boss's house is worth and what your podcast interviewer's house is worth.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

All of that is super fun and a little creepy, but creepy is not necessarily bad because being provocative helps drive virality. And that's certainly one of the ways that Zillow grew.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

All of that is super fun and a little creepy, but creepy is not necessarily bad because being provocative helps drive virality. And that's certainly one of the ways that Zillow grew.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

We did not know that it would grow so big so quickly. We hoped.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

We did not know that it would grow so big so quickly. We hoped.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

I think when we started to know was a couple weeks before launch when there was a good product in test and we were able to start using it and we could see, and the employees, I think there were probably 20 or so employees at the time, we could see the addictive nature of being able to zoom over a neighborhood with a God's eye view and see the price of every home.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

I think when we started to know was a couple weeks before launch when there was a good product in test and we were able to start using it and we could see, and the employees, I think there were probably 20 or so employees at the time, we could see the addictive nature of being able to zoom over a neighborhood with a God's eye view and see the price of every home.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

And so we hoped at that point, but it actually, you know, although we had a very fast start, what really catapulted Zillow was mobile. And that wasn't until a couple of years later with the creation of the smartphone and the GPS enabled smartphones and the creation of the app store.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

And so we hoped at that point, but it actually, you know, although we had a very fast start, what really catapulted Zillow was mobile. And that wasn't until a couple of years later with the creation of the smartphone and the GPS enabled smartphones and the creation of the app store.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

It's a great question. And I teach a course on entrepreneurship at Harvard to undergrads, and we spend a whole week on this exact question. So I'll try to answer it briefly, more briefly than I do when I teach it. There's an adage, which I do subscribe to, which is that if you're not somewhat embarrassed by the first version of your product, then you waited too long to ship it.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

It's a great question. And I teach a course on entrepreneurship at Harvard to undergrads, and we spend a whole week on this exact question. So I'll try to answer it briefly, more briefly than I do when I teach it. There's an adage, which I do subscribe to, which is that if you're not somewhat embarrassed by the first version of your product, then you waited too long to ship it.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

So in general, you just want to get something out there and start learning. And that's what building an MVP is all about. There are some exceptions where it makes sense to slow things down in order to have a more fully formed MVP. One is in categories where you can't have it be just okay. And this is things like blood testing, for example, right? Like you can't have a high degree of inaccuracy.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

So in general, you just want to get something out there and start learning. And that's what building an MVP is all about. There are some exceptions where it makes sense to slow things down in order to have a more fully formed MVP. One is in categories where you can't have it be just okay. And this is things like blood testing, for example, right? Like you can't have a high degree of inaccuracy.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

Another though is if there's just like a really obvious product feature that's really important for the launch. So in the case of Zillow, I made the very unpopular decision to delay the launch by, I want to say it was maybe a month or two. And this was, by the way, after it took us almost six months to come up with the idea and then six months to build it. So about a year that this team had been

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

Another though is if there's just like a really obvious product feature that's really important for the launch. So in the case of Zillow, I made the very unpopular decision to delay the launch by, I want to say it was maybe a month or two. And this was, by the way, after it took us almost six months to come up with the idea and then six months to build it. So about a year that this team had been

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

eating ramen noodles and not collecting salary and not being able to tell friends or family what we were working on and everyone kind of wondering why did you leave Expedia, et cetera. So to delay that by an extra two to three months was a lot. And the extra feature that I slowed things down to include was to allow homeowners to claim their home and edit their home facts.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

eating ramen noodles and not collecting salary and not being able to tell friends or family what we were working on and everyone kind of wondering why did you leave Expedia, et cetera. So to delay that by an extra two to three months was a lot. And the extra feature that I slowed things down to include was to allow homeowners to claim their home and edit their home facts.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

Because I knew that people were going to see this estimate of their home and they were going to have an opinion about it. And the opinion probably wouldn't be so great. And so we wanted to give them something to do. And the something to do is that they can actually impact it by saying, no, no, no, hold on. I have three bedrooms, not two bedrooms. Or I have 3,000 square feet, not 2,000 square feet.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Former Zillow CEO, Spencer Rascoff: Leading Billion-Dollar Startups Through Crises | E63

Because I knew that people were going to see this estimate of their home and they were going to have an opinion about it. And the opinion probably wouldn't be so great. And so we wanted to give them something to do. And the something to do is that they can actually impact it by saying, no, no, no, hold on. I have three bedrooms, not two bedrooms. Or I have 3,000 square feet, not 2,000 square feet.